lllllllll:
i just took an iq test for the first time ever xD buzzy stuff. have you ever completed one? what was your score? what are your thoughts on iq tests in general?

ColorStorm:
I think IQ tests measure a specific, limited aspect of intelligence. The saying is kind of apt, "An IQ test measures one's ability to perform on an IQ test." I would say that what an IQ test measures correlates with general intelligence--just not 100%--but, as Tweed said, even the natural (real) concept of intelligence is too multidimensional to be put into a linear scale.

Going out on a limb a little, I think the aspects of intelligence that IQ tests are biased toward are logical analysis/puzzle-solving and cleverness. I believe this tends to correlate with brightness (one important aspect of what people might call "intelligence"), but loosely enough that a really bright person could easily be "overlooked" by them.

I used to hang out in the IRC channel for The Prometheus Society, a high-IQ community whose cut-off level is the 99.997th percentile (rarity of 1 in 33,333), IQ 164+. I talked with and watched people whose IQs were 180 and over (rarity of one in a million), and one thing that really stood out to me was that they were extraordinarily clever. I also remember one person, with an IQ over 170, mentioning that he didn't even know until he'd taken an IQ test that he was an genius. I found this baffling. I mean, if you were truly bright and/or perceptive wouldn't you immediately notice there's a difference between you and the average person? When I was growing up I was constantly amazed by how dumb most people were, especially with logic. I mean they looked like they'd be normal, real, intelligent people, but as soon as they opened their mouths they seemed to belie their appearances as real people. To be fair, I didn't consider myself a "genius", but it wouldn't have been a far leap for me to assume from the fact that most people seemed retarded that I must've been a lot more intelligent than average.. and you could argue that "genius" is relative to the norm. So maybe this guy with a 170+ IQ wasn't any more bright than the average person, but just happened to be really good at puzzle-solving? I dunno.

I've taken probably a dozen online IQ tests, I generally scored between 135 and 145, but I don't know if online tests tend to be overly generous. (On one German test that was all about picking the next image in sequences of grids of dots moving around, I got (I think?) 160.. so either I'm really good at that kind of pattern recognition, or the test wasn't normed very well.) I also took the Logima Strictica 36, which is a normed, high-ceiling IQ test and is geared particularly toward measuring creativity, and I got 146. I also took the WAIS III, but I don't think the score I got is very accurate because I was really out of it that day. Also I think he might have taken some points off for my apparent emotional/social/personality difficulties. The score was only 120, but in one of the (I think four?) sub-scales I got 138. I think it was something like "Functional intelligence", though I don't see anything like that on the Wikipedia page for the WAIS tests.

lllllllll:
135-145? wow dude, impressive :) albeit expected, knowing you lol ;) also, i agree with the first two parts of your answer/response, & 'the Prometheus society' sounds awesome!! i'd've liked to have been present there during those times & just observe people :)

ColorStorm:
I have IQ envy of people with IQs of like 170 and such. =P

Honestly I want to have an IQ of 5000, I wonder what that's like/would be like. Or even better 1000000.

lllllllll:
haha, i wonder if you can 'will' yourself to experience such a ... mind state (?) during a lucid dream :p

i was thinking... wouldn't it be a bit like being an AI, supercomputer thingy? lol

ColorStorm:
to the lucid dream question, don't think so, unless you already knew what the mindstate was like. you could only will what you know to imagine

and even then, you couldn't will actually being that smart, because the brain's not capable of it, so your experience of 'what it's like' would be limited

well, i guess it's not 100% true that 'you can only will what you know to imagine', lucid dreams do fill in a lot of the details, i just don't think that's one

ColorStorm:
that it could fill in, or it may, but i don't think it would necessarily be accurate

as for being an AI, i don't believe an AI can be conscious

so there would be nothing it is like to be an AI, even if it could be that smart. and i also think consciousness is required for general intelligence

this isn't my only reason for thinking an AI can't be conscious, but here's a nice little proof (not mine)

https://broodsphilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/03/21/replay-argument/

https://broodsphilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/04/13/why-a-neural-network-cant-be-conscious-2/

(it's actually about why a neural network can't be conscious, which applies brains, but it should also apply to artificial neural networks, which are a primary hypothetical way to produce AI, though I guess there are other ways.. but maybe similar arguments could be made for algorithms in general not being concsious) or maybe proving that algorithms can't be conscious would require a completely different argument, i dunno. but it's clearly illogical to me to think they could

but it's hard to explain why so i won't try right now

lllllllll:
hahaha. fair enough dude. i've always thought it was impossible myself, for..other reasons than those mentioned in the links. when i mentioned the AI thing i meant that i imagine that that's what it'd be like. it's no where near accurate, of course, but it isn't too hard to imagine what it'd be like being a conscious AI in a fictional scenario. which i know...you're not interested in. i just think that if such an 'entity' existed, or...if you were that entity, it'd be the same as having an iq of 1,000,000,000^300

(exagggeraetd figure) but anyway, i never meant for my responses to be taken seriously lol :)